Women's Professional Soccer Suspends Operations Permanently

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Permalink Reply by Women's Soccer United on May 19, 2012 at 12:03

I agree with you there, it will make a significant difference if a British side is in the final. Arsenal have got to the semi-finals twice now and there is no reason they couldn't make the final. The other year when the Champions League was in London the women's match was held at Fulham with an attendance of 14,303. I think the Olympics will make an improvement to women's football in England and as long as they build on this years fantastic competition they should be aiming high for next year's Champions League Final. I would like to see it at a ground like Arsenal's Emirates.

Lars Breimer said:

UEFA must hope that a British club, preferably London based such as Arsenal Ladies, will reach the CL final if it is to be held in London.  The men´s final would be at Wembley, so either the Gunners´ ground or Chelsea´s are possible, though the organisers may prefer a (slightly) smaller ground and have it (almost) sold out.

Richard Murray said:

I think the olympics being in london will help. If the ladies come out and play the fans will see and besides, next season if a german team gets to the finals and OL is their i expect traveling arrangements to be made a plenty to undo the disrespect to germany :)


Russell Blyth said:

I'm not sure where to find that new discussion. Anyway, my view from the west side of the pond is that the success of the WWC in 2011 has been capitalized on very nicely, mostly obviously in the host country, Germany. Will 50,000 attend the CL final next year in London? I don't know, but even 20,000 would be a success, I think.

Lars Breimer said:

The question we on this side of the pond are asking ourselves is whether the 50 212 who went to the Olympic stadium in Munich yesterday was a freak show that represent a flash in the pan or a foundation for the future. Ladies´ football on this side would appear to have wasted opportunties before.  

Please put you comments and ideas on the new discussion forum that WSU has set up.  Two ideas would be good however bizarre.

Russell Blyth said:

So incredibly disappointing. I can hardly bear to read the language used in the joint WPS/Borislow statement. The talented players in the US need a high-quality league to play in or risk sliding out of contention compared to those countries where leagues are thriving (over 50,000 at the CL final just yesterday, ironically). Yes, they can all go play in Europe, but I don't think that helps keep the game developing in the US the same way.

Permalink Reply by 2xehxtxemyk65 on May 19, 2012 at 16:50

Arsenal defetaed Umeå to claim the CL title in 2007.  In those days the final was played in two legs at both club´s grounds. 6265 turned out in Umeå, a city of ca 50K inhabitants, while 3467 saw it in London, a city of ca 10M inhabitants.

We can discuss on the new forum WSU created of what lessons these figures may teach us in 2012.

Women's Soccer United said:

I agree with you there, it will make a significant difference if a British side is in the final. Arsenal have got to the semi-finals twice now and there is no reason they couldn't make the final. The other year when the Champions League was in London the women's match was held at Fulham with an attendance of 14,303. I think the Olympics will make an improvement to women's football in England and as long as they build on this years fantastic competition they should be aiming high for next year's Champions League Final. I would like to see it at a ground like Arsenal's Emirates.

Lars Breimer said:

UEFA must hope that a British club, preferably London based such as Arsenal Ladies, will reach the CL final if it is to be held in London.  The men´s final would be at Wembley, so either the Gunners´ ground or Chelsea´s are possible, though the organisers may prefer a (slightly) smaller ground and have it (almost) sold out.

Richard Murray said:

I think the olympics being in london will help. If the ladies come out and play the fans will see and besides, next season if a german team gets to the finals and OL is their i expect traveling arrangements to be made a plenty to undo the disrespect to germany :)


Russell Blyth said:

I'm not sure where to find that new discussion. Anyway, my view from the west side of the pond is that the success of the WWC in 2011 has been capitalized on very nicely, mostly obviously in the host country, Germany. Will 50,000 attend the CL final next year in London? I don't know, but even 20,000 would be a success, I think.

Lars Breimer said:

The question we on this side of the pond are asking ourselves is whether the 50 212 who went to the Olympic stadium in Munich yesterday was a freak show that represent a flash in the pan or a foundation for the future. Ladies´ football on this side would appear to have wasted opportunties before.  

Please put you comments and ideas on the new discussion forum that WSU has set up.  Two ideas would be good however bizarre.

Russell Blyth said:

So incredibly disappointing. I can hardly bear to read the language used in the joint WPS/Borislow statement. The talented players in the US need a high-quality league to play in or risk sliding out of contention compared to those countries where leagues are thriving (over 50,000 at the CL final just yesterday, ironically). Yes, they can all go play in Europe, but I don't think that helps keep the game developing in the US the same way.

Permalink Reply by Richard Murray on May 19, 2012 at 23:55

it is a gamble, but if arsenal ladies can get to the final it would be worth it if they can have the final their.

Women's Soccer United said:

I agree with you there, it will make a significant difference if a British side is in the final. Arsenal have got to the semi-finals twice now and there is no reason they couldn't make the final. The other year when the Champions League was in London the women's match was held at Fulham with an attendance of 14,303. I think the Olympics will make an improvement to women's football in England and as long as they build on this years fantastic competition they should be aiming high for next year's Champions League Final. I would like to see it at a ground like Arsenal's Emirates.

Lars Breimer said:

UEFA must hope that a British club, preferably London based such as Arsenal Ladies, will reach the CL final if it is to be held in London.  The men´s final would be at Wembley, so either the Gunners´ ground or Chelsea´s are possible, though the organisers may prefer a (slightly) smaller ground and have it (almost) sold out.

Richard Murray said:

I think the olympics being in london will help. If the ladies come out and play the fans will see and besides, next season if a german team gets to the finals and OL is their i expect traveling arrangements to be made a plenty to undo the disrespect to germany :)


Russell Blyth said:

I'm not sure where to find that new discussion. Anyway, my view from the west side of the pond is that the success of the WWC in 2011 has been capitalized on very nicely, mostly obviously in the host country, Germany. Will 50,000 attend the CL final next year in London? I don't know, but even 20,000 would be a success, I think.

Lars Breimer said:

The question we on this side of the pond are asking ourselves is whether the 50 212 who went to the Olympic stadium in Munich yesterday was a freak show that represent a flash in the pan or a foundation for the future. Ladies´ football on this side would appear to have wasted opportunties before.  

Please put you comments and ideas on the new discussion forum that WSU has set up.  Two ideas would be good however bizarre.

Russell Blyth said:

So incredibly disappointing. I can hardly bear to read the language used in the joint WPS/Borislow statement. The talented players in the US need a high-quality league to play in or risk sliding out of contention compared to those countries where leagues are thriving (over 50,000 at the CL final just yesterday, ironically). Yes, they can all go play in Europe, but I don't think that helps keep the game developing in the US the same way.

Permalink Reply by 2xehxtxemyk65 on May 20, 2012 at 6:18

This where the marketing, sales and PR team earn their keep.  They got it right in Munich.  To keep the momentum going UEFA need a stadium equally as full and not too many fewer spectators. An attendance of just above 40 000 is probably needed, but it is the job of the business people to know what will cut the mustard.

Maybe it would be enough to have a significant greater profit from the event?  Maybe Stamford Bridge would be better than Emirates?  We cannot tell, but it is the job of the professionals to judge the market. After Euro-13 it may be clearer when we will know which teams will have done well and which matches were well attended.

Richard Murray said:

it is a gamble, but if arsenal ladies can get to the final it would be worth it if they can have the final their.

Women's Soccer United said:

I agree with you there, it will make a significant difference if a British side is in the final. Arsenal have got to the semi-finals twice now and there is no reason they couldn't make the final. The other year when the Champions League was in London the women's match was held at Fulham with an attendance of 14,303. I think the Olympics will make an improvement to women's football in England and as long as they build on this years fantastic competition they should be aiming high for next year's Champions League Final. I would like to see it at a ground like Arsenal's Emirates.

Lars Breimer said:

UEFA must hope that a British club, preferably London based such as Arsenal Ladies, will reach the CL final if it is to be held in London.  The men´s final would be at Wembley, so either the Gunners´ ground or Chelsea´s are possible, though the organisers may prefer a (slightly) smaller ground and have it (almost) sold out.

Richard Murray said:

I think the olympics being in london will help. If the ladies come out and play the fans will see and besides, next season if a german team gets to the finals and OL is their i expect traveling arrangements to be made a plenty to undo the disrespect to germany :)


Russell Blyth said:

I'm not sure where to find that new discussion. Anyway, my view from the west side of the pond is that the success of the WWC in 2011 has been capitalized on very nicely, mostly obviously in the host country, Germany. Will 50,000 attend the CL final next year in London? I don't know, but even 20,000 would be a success, I think.

Lars Breimer said:

The question we on this side of the pond are asking ourselves is whether the 50 212 who went to the Olympic stadium in Munich yesterday was a freak show that represent a flash in the pan or a foundation for the future. Ladies´ football on this side would appear to have wasted opportunties before.  

Please put you comments and ideas on the new discussion forum that WSU has set up.  Two ideas would be good however bizarre.

Russell Blyth said:

So incredibly disappointing. I can hardly bear to read the language used in the joint WPS/Borislow statement. The talented players in the US need a high-quality league to play in or risk sliding out of contention compared to those countries where leagues are thriving (over 50,000 at the CL final just yesterday, ironically). Yes, they can all go play in Europe, but I don't think that helps keep the game developing in the US the same way.

Permalink Reply by Richard Murray on May 20, 2012 at 17:44

The problem with final locations is how early they are mentioned. I think they should wait and see the results of the Super League in england and give the stadium to whomever tops it , either arsenal or chelsea more than likely

Lars Breimer said:

This where the marketing, sales and PR team earn their keep.  They got it right in Munich.  To keep the momentum going UEFA need a stadium equally as full and not too many fewer spectators. An attendance of just above 40 000 is probably needed, but it is the job of the business people to know what will cut the mustard.

Maybe it would be enough to have a significant greater profit from the event?  Maybe Stamford Bridge would be better than Emirates?  We cannot tell, but it is the job of the professionals to judge the market. After Euro-13 it may be clearer when we will know which teams will have done well and which matches were well attended.

Richard Murray said:

it is a gamble, but if arsenal ladies can get to the final it would be worth it if they can have the final their.

Women's Soccer United said:

I agree with you there, it will make a significant difference if a British side is in the final. Arsenal have got to the semi-finals twice now and there is no reason they couldn't make the final. The other year when the Champions League was in London the women's match was held at Fulham with an attendance of 14,303. I think the Olympics will make an improvement to women's football in England and as long as they build on this years fantastic competition they should be aiming high for next year's Champions League Final. I would like to see it at a ground like Arsenal's Emirates.

Lars Breimer said:

UEFA must hope that a British club, preferably London based such as Arsenal Ladies, will reach the CL final if it is to be held in London.  The men´s final would be at Wembley, so either the Gunners´ ground or Chelsea´s are possible, though the organisers may prefer a (slightly) smaller ground and have it (almost) sold out.

Richard Murray said:

I think the olympics being in london will help. If the ladies come out and play the fans will see and besides, next season if a german team gets to the finals and OL is their i expect traveling arrangements to be made a plenty to undo the disrespect to germany :)


Russell Blyth said:

I'm not sure where to find that new discussion. Anyway, my view from the west side of the pond is that the success of the WWC in 2011 has been capitalized on very nicely, mostly obviously in the host country, Germany. Will 50,000 attend the CL final next year in London? I don't know, but even 20,000 would be a success, I think.

Lars Breimer said:

The question we on this side of the pond are asking ourselves is whether the 50 212 who went to the Olympic stadium in Munich yesterday was a freak show that represent a flash in the pan or a foundation for the future. Ladies´ football on this side would appear to have wasted opportunties before.  

Please put you comments and ideas on the new discussion forum that WSU has set up.  Two ideas would be good however bizarre.

Russell Blyth said:

So incredibly disappointing. I can hardly bear to read the language used in the joint WPS/Borislow statement. The talented players in the US need a high-quality league to play in or risk sliding out of contention compared to those countries where leagues are thriving (over 50,000 at the CL final just yesterday, ironically). Yes, they can all go play in Europe, but I don't think that helps keep the game developing in the US the same way.

Permalink Reply by 2xehxtxemyk65 on May 20, 2012 at 18:03

Emirates stadium holds ca 60 000 while Stamford Bridge holds ca 40 000.  I would probably go for the smaller, that is Chelsea´s ground. On the other hand, "Dream big, liitle pig" wrote Kristi Yamaguchi, and UEFA had the guts to place this year´s final in the Olympiastadion, so why not go for broke and take Emirates?  You pays you money and you makes your choice.

They do not need to decide till they know the quarter final make-up.  Watch this space.

Richard Murray said:

The problem with final locations is how early they are mentioned. I think they should wait and see the results of the Super League in england and give the stadium to whomever tops it , either arsenal or chelsea more than likely

Lars Breimer said:

This where the marketing, sales and PR team earn their keep.  They got it right in Munich.  To keep the momentum going UEFA need a stadium equally as full and not too many fewer spectators. An attendance of just above 40 000 is probably needed, but it is the job of the business people to know what will cut the mustard.

Maybe it would be enough to have a significant greater profit from the event?  Maybe Stamford Bridge would be better than Emirates?  We cannot tell, but it is the job of the professionals to judge the market. After Euro-13 it may be clearer when we will know which teams will have done well and which matches were well attended.

Richard Murray said:

it is a gamble, but if arsenal ladies can get to the final it would be worth it if they can have the final their.

Women's Soccer United said:

I agree with you there, it will make a significant difference if a British side is in the final. Arsenal have got to the semi-finals twice now and there is no reason they couldn't make the final. The other year when the Champions League was in London the women's match was held at Fulham with an attendance of 14,303. I think the Olympics will make an improvement to women's football in England and as long as they build on this years fantastic competition they should be aiming high for next year's Champions League Final. I would like to see it at a ground like Arsenal's Emirates.

Lars Breimer said:

UEFA must hope that a British club, preferably London based such as Arsenal Ladies, will reach the CL final if it is to be held in London.  The men´s final would be at Wembley, so either the Gunners´ ground or Chelsea´s are possible, though the organisers may prefer a (slightly) smaller ground and have it (almost) sold out.

Richard Murray said:

I think the olympics being in london will help. If the ladies come out and play the fans will see and besides, next season if a german team gets to the finals and OL is their i expect traveling arrangements to be made a plenty to undo the disrespect to germany :)


Russell Blyth said:

I'm not sure where to find that new discussion. Anyway, my view from the west side of the pond is that the success of the WWC in 2011 has been capitalized on very nicely, mostly obviously in the host country, Germany. Will 50,000 attend the CL final next year in London? I don't know, but even 20,000 would be a success, I think.

Lars Breimer said:

The question we on this side of the pond are asking ourselves is whether the 50 212 who went to the Olympic stadium in Munich yesterday was a freak show that represent a flash in the pan or a foundation for the future. Ladies´ football on this side would appear to have wasted opportunties before.  

Please put you comments and ideas on the new discussion forum that WSU has set up.  Two ideas would be good however bizarre.

Russell Blyth said:

So incredibly disappointing. I can hardly bear to read the language used in the joint WPS/Borislow statement. The talented players in the US need a high-quality league to play in or risk sliding out of contention compared to those countries where leagues are thriving (over 50,000 at the CL final just yesterday, ironically). Yes, they can all go play in Europe, but I don't think that helps keep the game developing in the US the same way.

Permalink Reply by Richard Murray on May 20, 2012 at 19:18

good points

Lars Breimer said:

Emirates stadium holds ca 60 000 while Stamford Bridge holds ca 40 000.  I would probably go for the smaller, that is Chelsea´s ground. On the other hand, "Dream big, liitle pig" wrote Kristi Yamaguchi, and UEFA had the guts to place this year´s final in the Olympiastadion, so why not go for broke and take Emirates?  You pays you money and you makes your choice.

They do not need to decide till they know the quarter final make-up.  Watch this space.

Richard Murray said:

The problem with final locations is how early they are mentioned. I think they should wait and see the results of the Super League in england and give the stadium to whomever tops it , either arsenal or chelsea more than likely

Lars Breimer said:

This where the marketing, sales and PR team earn their keep.  They got it right in Munich.  To keep the momentum going UEFA need a stadium equally as full and not too many fewer spectators. An attendance of just above 40 000 is probably needed, but it is the job of the business people to know what will cut the mustard.

Maybe it would be enough to have a significant greater profit from the event?  Maybe Stamford Bridge would be better than Emirates?  We cannot tell, but it is the job of the professionals to judge the market. After Euro-13 it may be clearer when we will know which teams will have done well and which matches were well attended.

Richard Murray said:

it is a gamble, but if arsenal ladies can get to the final it would be worth it if they can have the final their.

Women's Soccer United said:

I agree with you there, it will make a significant difference if a British side is in the final. Arsenal have got to the semi-finals twice now and there is no reason they couldn't make the final. The other year when the Champions League was in London the women's match was held at Fulham with an attendance of 14,303. I think the Olympics will make an improvement to women's football in England and as long as they build on this years fantastic competition they should be aiming high for next year's Champions League Final. I would like to see it at a ground like Arsenal's Emirates.

Lars Breimer said:

UEFA must hope that a British club, preferably London based such as Arsenal Ladies, will reach the CL final if it is to be held in London.  The men´s final would be at Wembley, so either the Gunners´ ground or Chelsea´s are possible, though the organisers may prefer a (slightly) smaller ground and have it (almost) sold out.

Richard Murray said:

I think the olympics being in london will help. If the ladies come out and play the fans will see and besides, next season if a german team gets to the finals and OL is their i expect traveling arrangements to be made a plenty to undo the disrespect to germany :)


Russell Blyth said:

I'm not sure where to find that new discussion. Anyway, my view from the west side of the pond is that the success of the WWC in 2011 has been capitalized on very nicely, mostly obviously in the host country, Germany. Will 50,000 attend the CL final next year in London? I don't know, but even 20,000 would be a success, I think.

Lars Breimer said:

The question we on this side of the pond are asking ourselves is whether the 50 212 who went to the Olympic stadium in Munich yesterday was a freak show that represent a flash in the pan or a foundation for the future. Ladies´ football on this side would appear to have wasted opportunties before.  

Please put you comments and ideas on the new discussion forum that WSU has set up.  Two ideas would be good however bizarre.

Russell Blyth said:

So incredibly disappointing. I can hardly bear to read the language used in the joint WPS/Borislow statement. The talented players in the US need a high-quality league to play in or risk sliding out of contention compared to those countries where leagues are thriving (over 50,000 at the CL final just yesterday, ironically). Yes, they can all go play in Europe, but I don't think that helps keep the game developing in the US the same way.

Permalink Reply by 2xehxtxemyk65 on May 20, 2012 at 19:30

I wonder whether they might be planning to use the Olympic stadium.  This stadium -- like that in Atlanta -- is going to be restructured after the Olympics, in this case to a soccer stadium. West Ham has obtained the rights but Spurs are challenging that (or were). Maybe the idea is to use it for the Ladies´ CL final?

Richard Murray said:

good points

Lars Breimer said:

Emirates stadium holds ca 60 000 while Stamford Bridge holds ca 40 000.  I would probably go for the smaller, that is Chelsea´s ground. On the other hand, "Dream big, liitle pig" wrote Kristi Yamaguchi, and UEFA had the guts to place this year´s final in the Olympiastadion, so why not go for broke and take Emirates?  You pays you money and you makes your choice.

They do not need to decide till they know the quarter final make-up.  Watch this space.

Richard Murray said:

The problem with final locations is how early they are mentioned. I think they should wait and see the results of the Super League in england and give the stadium to whomever tops it , either arsenal or chelsea more than likely

Lars Breimer said:

This where the marketing, sales and PR team earn their keep.  They got it right in Munich.  To keep the momentum going UEFA need a stadium equally as full and not too many fewer spectators. An attendance of just above 40 000 is probably needed, but it is the job of the business people to know what will cut the mustard.

Maybe it would be enough to have a significant greater profit from the event?  Maybe Stamford Bridge would be better than Emirates?  We cannot tell, but it is the job of the professionals to judge the market. After Euro-13 it may be clearer when we will know which teams will have done well and which matches were well attended.

Richard Murray said:

it is a gamble, but if arsenal ladies can get to the final it would be worth it if they can have the final their.

Women's Soccer United said:

I agree with you there, it will make a significant difference if a British side is in the final. Arsenal have got to the semi-finals twice now and there is no reason they couldn't make the final. The other year when the Champions League was in London the women's match was held at Fulham with an attendance of 14,303. I think the Olympics will make an improvement to women's football in England and as long as they build on this years fantastic competition they should be aiming high for next year's Champions League Final. I would like to see it at a ground like Arsenal's Emirates.

Lars Breimer said:

UEFA must hope that a British club, preferably London based such as Arsenal Ladies, will reach the CL final if it is to be held in London.  The men´s final would be at Wembley, so either the Gunners´ ground or Chelsea´s are possible, though the organisers may prefer a (slightly) smaller ground and have it (almost) sold out.

Richard Murray said:

I think the olympics being in london will help. If the ladies come out and play the fans will see and besides, next season if a german team gets to the finals and OL is their i expect traveling arrangements to be made a plenty to undo the disrespect to germany :)


Russell Blyth said:

I'm not sure where to find that new discussion. Anyway, my view from the west side of the pond is that the success of the WWC in 2011 has been capitalized on very nicely, mostly obviously in the host country, Germany. Will 50,000 attend the CL final next year in London? I don't know, but even 20,000 would be a success, I think.

Lars Breimer said:

The question we on this side of the pond are asking ourselves is whether the 50 212 who went to the Olympic stadium in Munich yesterday was a freak show that represent a flash in the pan or a foundation for the future. Ladies´ football on this side would appear to have wasted opportunties before.  

Please put you comments and ideas on the new discussion forum that WSU has set up.  Two ideas would be good however bizarre.

Russell Blyth said:

So incredibly disappointing. I can hardly bear to read the language used in the joint WPS/Borislow statement. The talented players in the US need a high-quality league to play in or risk sliding out of contention compared to those countries where leagues are thriving (over 50,000 at the CL final just yesterday, ironically). Yes, they can all go play in Europe, but I don't think that helps keep the game developing in the US the same way.

Permalink Reply by Women's Soccer United on May 20, 2012 at 19:34

I think they will use the Olympic stadium for the men's Champions League Final, I understand your logic about the stadium capacity and I think Stamford Bridge would be a more appropriate venue for the women. It has a capacity that we know can be achieved with the right PR etc and the stadium will be a fantastic venue for the players and fans to have the whole Champions League Final experience

Lars Breimer said:

I wonder whether they might be planning to use the Olympic stadium.  This stadium -- like that in Atlanta -- is going to be restructured after the Olympics, in this case to a soccer stadium. West Ham has obtained the rights but Spurs are challenging that (or were). Maybe the idea is to use it for the Ladies´ CL final?

Richard Murray said:

good points

Lars Breimer said:

Emirates stadium holds ca 60 000 while Stamford Bridge holds ca 40 000.  I would probably go for the smaller, that is Chelsea´s ground. On the other hand, "Dream big, liitle pig" wrote Kristi Yamaguchi, and UEFA had the guts to place this year´s final in the Olympiastadion, so why not go for broke and take Emirates?  You pays you money and you makes your choice.

They do not need to decide till they know the quarter final make-up.  Watch this space.

Richard Murray said:

The problem with final locations is how early they are mentioned. I think they should wait and see the results of the Super League in england and give the stadium to whomever tops it , either arsenal or chelsea more than likely

Lars Breimer said:

This where the marketing, sales and PR team earn their keep.  They got it right in Munich.  To keep the momentum going UEFA need a stadium equally as full and not too many fewer spectators. An attendance of just above 40 000 is probably needed, but it is the job of the business people to know what will cut the mustard.

Maybe it would be enough to have a significant greater profit from the event?  Maybe Stamford Bridge would be better than Emirates?  We cannot tell, but it is the job of the professionals to judge the market. After Euro-13 it may be clearer when we will know which teams will have done well and which matches were well attended.

Richard Murray said:

it is a gamble, but if arsenal ladies can get to the final it would be worth it if they can have the final their.

Women's Soccer United said:

I agree with you there, it will make a significant difference if a British side is in the final. Arsenal have got to the semi-finals twice now and there is no reason they couldn't make the final. The other year when the Champions League was in London the women's match was held at Fulham with an attendance of 14,303. I think the Olympics will make an improvement to women's football in England and as long as they build on this years fantastic competition they should be aiming high for next year's Champions League Final. I would like to see it at a ground like Arsenal's Emirates.

Lars Breimer said:

UEFA must hope that a British club, preferably London based such as Arsenal Ladies, will reach the CL final if it is to be held in London.  The men´s final would be at Wembley, so either the Gunners´ ground or Chelsea´s are possible, though the organisers may prefer a (slightly) smaller ground and have it (almost) sold out.

Richard Murray said:

I think the olympics being in london will help. If the ladies come out and play the fans will see and besides, next season if a german team gets to the finals and OL is their i expect traveling arrangements to be made a plenty to undo the disrespect to germany :)


Russell Blyth said:

I'm not sure where to find that new discussion. Anyway, my view from the west side of the pond is that the success of the WWC in 2011 has been capitalized on very nicely, mostly obviously in the host country, Germany. Will 50,000 attend the CL final next year in London? I don't know, but even 20,000 would be a success, I think.

Lars Breimer said:

The question we on this side of the pond are asking ourselves is whether the 50 212 who went to the Olympic stadium in Munich yesterday was a freak show that represent a flash in the pan or a foundation for the future. Ladies´ football on this side would appear to have wasted opportunties before.  

Please put you comments and ideas on the new discussion forum that WSU has set up.  Two ideas would be good however bizarre.

Russell Blyth said:

So incredibly disappointing. I can hardly bear to read the language used in the joint WPS/Borislow statement. The talented players in the US need a high-quality league to play in or risk sliding out of contention compared to those countries where leagues are thriving (over 50,000 at the CL final just yesterday, ironically). Yes, they can all go play in Europe, but I don't think that helps keep the game developing in the US the same way.

Permalink Reply by 2xehxtxemyk65 on May 20, 2012 at 19:39

Wembley is the temple of English soccer, even the rebuilt Wembley. It is difficult to see a final not being played there.

Women's Soccer United said:

I think they will use the Olympic stadium for the men's Champions League Final, I understand your logic about the stadium capacity and I think Stamford Bridge would be a more appropriate venue for the women. It has a capacity that we know can be achieved with the right PR etc and the stadium will be a fantastic venue for the players and fans to have the whole Champions League Final experience

Lars Breimer said:

I wonder whether they might be planning to use the Olympic stadium.  This stadium -- like that in Atlanta -- is going to be restructured after the Olympics, in this case to a soccer stadium. West Ham has obtained the rights but Spurs are challenging that (or were). Maybe the idea is to use it for the Ladies´ CL final?

Richard Murray said:

good points

Lars Breimer said:

Emirates stadium holds ca 60 000 while Stamford Bridge holds ca 40 000.  I would probably go for the smaller, that is Chelsea´s ground. On the other hand, "Dream big, liitle pig" wrote Kristi Yamaguchi, and UEFA had the guts to place this year´s final in the Olympiastadion, so why not go for broke and take Emirates?  You pays you money and you makes your choice.

They do not need to decide till they know the quarter final make-up.  Watch this space.

Richard Murray said:

The problem with final locations is how early they are mentioned. I think they should wait and see the results of the Super League in england and give the stadium to whomever tops it , either arsenal or chelsea more than likely

Lars Breimer said:

This where the marketing, sales and PR team earn their keep.  They got it right in Munich.  To keep the momentum going UEFA need a stadium equally as full and not too many fewer spectators. An attendance of just above 40 000 is probably needed, but it is the job of the business people to know what will cut the mustard.

Maybe it would be enough to have a significant greater profit from the event?  Maybe Stamford Bridge would be better than Emirates?  We cannot tell, but it is the job of the professionals to judge the market. After Euro-13 it may be clearer when we will know which teams will have done well and which matches were well attended.

Richard Murray said:

it is a gamble, but if arsenal ladies can get to the final it would be worth it if they can have the final their.

Women's Soccer United said:

I agree with you there, it will make a significant difference if a British side is in the final. Arsenal have got to the semi-finals twice now and there is no reason they couldn't make the final. The other year when the Champions League was in London the women's match was held at Fulham with an attendance of 14,303. I think the Olympics will make an improvement to women's football in England and as long as they build on this years fantastic competition they should be aiming high for next year's Champions League Final. I would like to see it at a ground like Arsenal's Emirates.

Lars Breimer said:

UEFA must hope that a British club, preferably London based such as Arsenal Ladies, will reach the CL final if it is to be held in London.  The men´s final would be at Wembley, so either the Gunners´ ground or Chelsea´s are possible, though the organisers may prefer a (slightly) smaller ground and have it (almost) sold out.

Richard Murray said:

I think the olympics being in london will help. If the ladies come out and play the fans will see and besides, next season if a german team gets to the finals and OL is their i expect traveling arrangements to be made a plenty to undo the disrespect to germany :)


Russell Blyth said:

I'm not sure where to find that new discussion. Anyway, my view from the west side of the pond is that the success of the WWC in 2011 has been capitalized on very nicely, mostly obviously in the host country, Germany. Will 50,000 attend the CL final next year in London? I don't know, but even 20,000 would be a success, I think.

Lars Breimer said:

The question we on this side of the pond are asking ourselves is whether the 50 212 who went to the Olympic stadium in Munich yesterday was a freak show that represent a flash in the pan or a foundation for the future. Ladies´ football on this side would appear to have wasted opportunties before.  

Please put you comments and ideas on the new discussion forum that WSU has set up.  Two ideas would be good however bizarre.

Russell Blyth said:

So incredibly disappointing. I can hardly bear to read the language used in the joint WPS/Borislow statement. The talented players in the US need a high-quality league to play in or risk sliding out of contention compared to those countries where leagues are thriving (over 50,000 at the CL final just yesterday, ironically). Yes, they can all go play in Europe, but I don't think that helps keep the game developing in the US the same way.

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